AIGETOA second agenda meeting with the management under chairmanship of Hon’ble Director(HR)

AIGETOA second agenda meeting with the management under chairmanship of Hon’ble Director(HR)

An agenda Meeting was held today at 4 pm which went up to around 8:15 pm. The meeting was attended by President Shri Ravi Shil Verma, GS Shri Wasi Ahmad, Vice President Shri Badri Kumar Mehta, Dy GS Shri Deepak Shahoo and OS Shri Vivek Kumar Singh. The meeting was chaired by Director HR and was attended by PGM Pers, Sr GM Estt, Sr GM SR, Sr GM Admin, Sr GM (CA), GM Restg, GM Rectt, GM Trg, GM (WS&I) and other officers from HR wing. The agenda meeting was fully video recorded by Management and placed on record. All the points in the agenda Meeting were discussed threadbare and resolution are seen in sight on many issues.

The meeting held positively including some heated moments, when the association has to emphasize and remind failure of the management to act decisively to resolve basic issues of Pay and Promotion of executives which was firmly committed on multiple occasions. It is nothing but testing the patience of executives, who are restraining and extending nonstop cooperation despite of all odds in a hope that the next morning will be brighter in lieu of the BSNL Revival Package and full BSNL Board is in place after a long time but the darkness of stand stillness in almost all HR Issues still continues and challenging times in the absence of any proper support of MMM are not coming to an end. This situation can’t be allowed indefinitely and wordings of the association leaders may not be sounding well for the management in today’s meeting but it’s a harsh reality of the frustration growing sharply in each and every mind of the employees. If management couldn’t sense this anger in time, the resurrection of help up organizational protest is bound to happen, which will be detrimental for the organisation but the responsibilities will purely lie on the shoulder of management including HR Vertical. We are putting these facts straight to caution the management about the ground realities and employees should not be blamed for any such repercussion.

Discussion Abstract:

A major breakthrough has been achieved in pay related issues with management agreeing to send a revised proposal to DoT with highlighting of situation post VRS and almost NIL implications on Pension Part which was a major hitch in DoT for accepting the E2 scales. We have discussed the matter with senior officers at DoT also and we hope that positive breakthrough can be achieved. On the Pay loss related issues of 22820, E1 plus Five increments and TTA recruited as JTO in outsider quota, Director HR has directed to constitute a committee and examine all the new inputs given by AIGETOA. It was also agreed to extend the ambit of E1 plus Five Increments to all batches including the newly recruited GATE JTOs and JAOs. A reminder will be sent to DoT for expeditious submission of report by HR Committee. On promotion front, management informed that orders from court are expected soon. We requested management to issue the orders immediately on which management affirmed their commitment to execute the same expeditiously. List 9 and JAO gradation list will be issued within June 2021. The preparatory exercise for SDE to DE and AO to CAO will be started soon after the list 9 is finalized in June2021.

On increasing the SAB, management was non-committal, on health insurance, Committee will examine the financial implications and submit the report. Bond issues will be revisited and Rule 8 process shall be streamlined and made online. Rule 9 policy to be issued within June and genuine pending cases to be considered. The discriminatory Rule 8 clause for GATE JTOs to be removed and new guidelines on Rule 8 will be issued to circles in June. FTTH connection shall be allowed on service connections also. With respect to restructuring, AIGETOA will be called within one week for discussion on submissions given earlier. LICE for JE to JTO will be notified within one month. For maintenance and 4G issues, a separate agenda meeting will take place with Directors of other verticals and association has to submit the agenda points. CGA and extending BCF fund to all deaths in the current pandemic time was also discussed.

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Friends, all the above discussions are video recorded and hence there is no scope for any ambiguity or chest thumping. We don’t Claim we have achieved moon but we have moved the steps further and progress is clearly visible. We won’t like to make tall claims and would like to submit with all humility that Association is taking all necessary steps for getting the issues resolved. But this fact can’t be ignored that the current situation in country because of Covid has affected the working everywhere including BSNL CO. Many officers dealing the issues were Covid Positive and slowly things have started to regain normalcy and we are back on Job. This is one of the major causes of delay in resolution, which we need to appreciate but it doesn’t mean that we are going to give any relaxation to the management for failure to address these issues which are long pending.

On a lighter note, even Hon’ble supreme Court has exempted this pandemic time from the limitation criteria and accordingly we request all executives also to understand the practical difficulties and situation while citing our timelines in Shapath Patra. We once again reaffirm our commitment to ensure resolution for the issues as per commitment and request you all to understand the practical difficulties in pursuing the things keeping current situation in mind.

Some people, under the influence of those opposed to AIGETOA are on propaganda spree and we don’t mind that either because some people are basically born to criticize, and this criticism is an essential part of any System. Hence, we leave it onto people to judge the truthfulness, honesty and commitment of our leadership for resolving the issues.

Finally You May Love Us, You May Hate Us but We remain committed to spread positivity, hope and affection across the organisation even to those who don’t leave a single second go waste in criticising AIGETOA and its leadership.

Together We Will…Definitely

2nd Formal Agenda Meeting of AIGETOA with BSNL Management:

2nd Formal Agenda Meeting of AIGETOA with BSNL Management:

As per BSNL REA Rule-2014 the formal agenda meeting of Recognized Representative Executive Association has to be carried out once in a quarter to take the issues of the executives and policy decision with the BSNL Management. As the AIGETOA is the representative association and last meeting held on 15-09-2020 and four months have passed and so the association has written to the BSNL Management to hold the 2nd meeting immediately.

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Minutes of formal agenda meeting held on 15th Sept between Majority Recognised Representative Association and BSNL Management issued

The formal agenda meeting held between the Majority Recognised Representative Association AIGETOA and BSNL management held on 15th Sep, 2020 under the chairmanship of respected Director(HR), Shri Arvind Vadnerker ji released yesterday. Although the points discussed have been captured in the minutes but the time line discussed has not been elaborated. We are quite hopeful that under the esteem leadership of Shri Arvind Vadnerker ji, Director (HR) we will succeed to remove all bottlenecks in a phased manner as assured by him in the meeting and the new belief will be created.

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Formal Agenda Meeting of AIGETOA held with BSNL Management on 15-09-2020

The formal agenda meeting of the Recognised Representative Association, AIGETOA held with the BSNL Management on 15-09-2020 as per schedule at Conferences Hall, 9th Floor, BSNL Corporate Office, New Delhi. The meeting was held under the chairmanship of Director HR and management side was represented by the PGM Pers, Sr GM Establishment, Sr GM SR, GM Administration, GM Recruitment, DGM Pers, DGM SR and other senior officers. The Association side was represented by Shri Ravi Shil Verma AIP, Shri Wasi Ahmad GS, Shri Badri Kumar Mehta VP, Shri Yogendra Kumar AGS, Shri Vivek Kumar Singh OS.

Sr GM SR welcomed AIGETOA in the first formal meeting as recognised Representative Association and assured all cooperation. The Director HR in his opening remarks welcomed AIGETOA and all participants of the meeting. He assured all cooperation from management to the Recognised Representative Association for betterment of BSNL and entire employees of BSNL. The Director HR emphasised that management is concerned about present status and is very much inclined to improve the status of each executives and resolve the long pending issues of BSNL Executives.

GS AIGETOA Shri Wasi Ahmad in his opening remarks welcomed Director HR and all senior officers of BSNL and emphasised on the need to show the goodwill in terms of firm decisions now instead of words and assurances. He said that since last 20 years, the executives have suffered a lot and now it’s time that management should convert the words into action and end the injustices for ever. He appreciated the concern of the Director HR for the executive fraternity and hoped that now with changed Regime both in management as well as recognised association side, things will be move towards resolution with positive mindset. He underlined the fact that People are still suffering in terms of Promotion, Pay loss and other anomalies even after twenty years of formation of BSNL and AIGETOA has been elected with a great hope from all corners to bring positivity into the existing system. GS AIGETOA also affirmed the firm commitment that BSNL Stands First and Association assures it’s firm support on the issues related to viability of BSNL but at the same time expects that management will take all care of its internal customers i.e. employees of BSNL by resolving the issues in a time-bound manner.

AIP, Shri Ravi Shil Verma in his remarks emphasised about the need for change in perception by management with regard to HR issues. He said that it’s high time that management should understand that HR is also a resource and it requires investment in terms of money to get a proper output associated from the human capital. He conveyed the cooperation of executives with the decisions taken for betterment of BSNL and its employees. He further said that management should also understand the fact that any decision which has an adverse impact on our Pay, Promotion, Pension and Profitability of BSNL shall not be accepted by Association and instead shall be firmly opposed. He said that there is eminence of positive vibes from management side as of now and hoped that same will continue in future also to maintain a best employee and employer relationship. He said association is committed to build a healthy and wealthy BSNL.

Then the meeting started formally as per the agenda submitted by the association and continued from 10:00 Hrs to 15:30 Hrs. All issues were discussed in detail and many firm decisions were arrived in the meeting. The highlights of the decisions and deliberations held in the meeting is as stated below:

Implementation of BSNL REA in true letter and spirit :

Association emphasised that any division/deviation in the name of existence of multiplicity of association should not happen and REA guidelines should be followed in true letter and spirit. These guidelines are very clear on how to deal on policy matters with majority association and management should abide by that. At the same time, Association side also firmly assured that as majority recognised association, AIGETOA will work as representative of all the Executives and not merely as representative of its members only.

JTO TO SDE DPC :

It was informed by PGM Pers that the judgement of review petition has been vetted by senior advocate and management is moving ahead with JTO to SDE DPC without any further delay. The provisional list shall be published soon followed by issuance of promotions after DPC. All things are on track, Association requested for completion of the process in shortest possible time and the same has been agreed to.

SDE 2007 Reversal issue :

The issue was discussed at length and finally management side agreed to resolve the issue immediately without any further delay. The committee has been asked to submit the report immediately.

Pay Loss issues (22820, TTA outsider and pay loss in TTA LICE) and E1 plus five increments to new batches :

Association has been asked to submit a detailed consolidated note on the pay loss issues and on extending E1 plus five increments . Director HR agreed to get the same examined and a committee shall be constituted based on our representation to examine and consider the issue. We shall be submitting the note in next few days.

Seniority Lists of VY 2007-8 onwards :

Input to be taken from senior advocate on the issue and then decision be taken. We have given our submission that under any circumstances, any change in VY based seniority is not acceptable to us as it violates RRs. Management has shown a positive approach and assured that issue will be settled in next few days

Medical Insurance :

we have been asked to submit detailed proposal in this regard which should be in the best interest of employees. Association shall be doing the same.

Decision on next LDCE is to be taken in 15 days, Next DPC process initiation to be considered after the completion of promotion process. AIGETOA also raised the issue of calculation mismatch in Vacancies carried forward to different quota and requested management to re-verify the vacancies in LDCE Quota especially with respect to LDCE 2015, Decision on LDCE for other cadres like CSS is also to be taken in 15 days. DPC of other streams like Civil, Electrical, Architecture to be explored expeditiously

Restructuring and Cadre Review :

Formal discussions with AIGETOA to start on Restg and cadre review and BA structure. It is noted that many except 6 CGMs have not given any observation on the proposed BA structure which means that structure is more or less acceptable by them. So CSs may also discuss with the respective CGMs in this regard and request them to send their feedback to restg cell. We have categorically stated a big No to reduction of posts beyond stipulated guidelines and any dent to promotional avenues in the name of restructuring process.

SDE to DE and AO to CAO promotions :

Things are really complex because of CAT judgement of Chandigarh. We have been asked to explore the options with regard to judgement and submit proposal. We shall be getting in touch with the senior advocates and also all contending groups to arrive at a solution.

Rule 8, Rule 9 and Transfer requests :

Management agreed to our demand and accepted that they will develop a portal for request transfer cases where every aspect will be transparently maintained.

For Rule 8 provisions shall be made in ESS portal and SOP shall be issued to make it transparent. Estt cell to examine our input and coordinate with circles for clearance of rule 8 cases. Non applicability of Rule 8 clause of GATE JTOs to be revisited and clarification shall be issued from CO to end this discrimination.

GATE-JTO Service Agreement Bond Issue :

The issue related to the service agreement bond of GATE-JTO was discussed in length and it was agreed upon by the Establishment Cell to examine and AIGETOA shall be consulted on same.

Discussion on new promotion policy :

Director HR has gone through the proposal submitted by AIGETOA with respect to new promotion policy and appreciated the points. Discussion on same shall be initiated after receipt of input from DoT. SEWA will also be consulted on new promotion policy to ensure and smooth and acceptable policy for all stakeholders.

Change in designation of JTO/JAO to be examined and considered. AIGETOA has been asked to submit proposal in this regard.

Positive discussion on SAB and PRMB. In view PF Financial constraints, it may take some time but discussion ended on positive note and Director HR agreed to revert on the same after discussions with CMD BSNL.

Another important aspects was that there was some confusion with regard to admissibility of BSNLMRS facilities to dependents of deceased BSNL Recruits as many of the families were not getting the medical benefit after untimely death of a BSNL Recruit employee. Management agreed that this is applicable to BSNL Recruits also and a clarification shall be issued to all circles. Discussion on modified promotion policy also to be initiated.

Dear friends, above is just brief outcome of the discussions. Things have ended in good note and some issues which could not be taken due to time constraints shall be taken up in subsequent meetings. AIGETOA once again re-emphasizes it’s commitment for resolution of burning HR issues of all executives groups and none will be left behind. Minutes of this meeting will be issued soon by SR cell. But we need to keep the momentum and pressure on for a best outcome Let’s hope for the best.

Together We have Together We Will…